Josh Rogers  
So I want to talk about some iPads. That's the big news of this week.

John David Wright  
It is.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah. Big news this week is new iPads. Whether you're excited about it or not, I don't know. But that's the big news of the week from Apple.

John David Wright  
I mean, it's just another iPad.

Cole Sullivan  
Is it big news or news?

Josh Rogers  
It's news. It's sh-medium news.

John David Wright  
It's the it's Apple smallest news ever. 

Josh Rogers  
It's their thinnest news ever.

Cole Sullivan  
Thinnest news. Did you buy that the day you came back from Paris?

Josh Rogers  
I did.

John David Wright  
You got to the thirteen?

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I got one. No, this is the 11. I've tried the 13th in the past and it was too big. It was monstrosity. I think when I had the 13th I also had the magic keyboard thing. And I was like, this is the size of a laptop.

John David Wright  
Dude, it's so heavy. I think it's as heavy as my 15 inch MacBook Pro.

Josh Rogers  
Probably so literally more than definitely more than an air,

John David Wright  
which is kind of why I want the new one just so it's not as heavy in my backpack. But that feels like just a complete waste.

But it's cool. I think we should talk about it.

Cole Sullivan  
It's an iPad but thinner is the review you gave us. 

Josh Rogers  
That was my that was

my day. That was my day one review. So they announced this what was it may 7 It was the it was the day I was actually leaving to go out of town. I was watching the keynote on my phone on the way to the airport. And was hoping to maybe even pick one up while I was out of town but it just didn't work out. So today we landed that

John David Wright  
Buying that at the Champs-Élysées Apple store would have

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I was we were there. I was walking past that store like a day the day before they were supposed to be our beautiful didn't even go and we had too much other stuff to see 

John David Wright  
Bro. It's so good. 

Josh Rogers  
There's so there's a lot of good Apple stores in Paris. I saw a couple of them. Anyways, so new iPad Air and new iPad Pro, the iPad Air, I could care less about. It has an M2, it has touch ID I think the old one had Touch ID anyway. There's now a 15 inch iPad Air, which is kind of interesting. Apple has recently done the 15 inch MacBook Air now there's a 15 inch. Wait, no, you wrote 13 and 15 inch model on here. That can't be correct.

There's an 11 and 13.

It is and 11 and a 13 inch, you got me out here saying this information. Can you imagine a 15 inch iPad?

John David Wright  
That'd be ins those would bend all the time.

Josh Rogers  
It has Apple Pencil support. I'm guessing the old one had Apple Pencil support. I'm guessing this is the new it didn't it? The old iPad Air did not have pencil support? 

John David Wright  
I believe it did not 

Josh Rogers  
Wow. Someone Someone Someone let us know. I'm pretty sure it did

John David Wright  
they change the camera position, which is cool.

Josh Rogers  
No that was that was been like that they had changed that in the past. They had to leave it to the side on the previous iPad area. Okay, because that's what people were complaining about why the iPad Pro still had it in the wrong position. Okay. Yeah. The new iPad Pro, the big headline feature is that it is has an M4 is Apple's first product that has an M4 CPU inside of it, which is crazy. I was shocked. They came out of nowhere, I think you know, the M4 is probably only obviously most, the new generations are only obviously all only slightly improved over last. But I think the M4 is probably the closest to a previous generation ship that we've seen since Apple introduced the Apple Silicon line of processors.

John David Wright  
It's the next gen three nanometer, 

Josh Rogers  
Yes,so it's using the N3B process from TSMC as opposed to the N3E sorry if that's too much detail, but I was I'm kind of into the chip making technology. So this stuff's very interesting to me. It's actually a slightly worse CPU, it's actually a slightly worse process, but it's more cost, it's less costly for Apple to produce. So they're able to squeeze some more performance out of it somehow I think they're just putting more transistors on the die. But the transistors that they're making are slightly worse. So it's a denser package. But this process should bring down the cost drastically for Apple's three nanometer chips coming from TSMC. So that's great news for industry as a whole that they're figuring out three nanometer and that's finally coming to fruition. Fun fact, this is now the fastest single core performance of any product that Apple has ever made. This tiny little iPad is faster than any Mac Studio, any Mac Pro, iMac MacBook Pro, what have you. This thing can do that faster. 

John David Wright  
It's insane. I'm excited about them for it. It kind of seems like you know, we're getting off the rails already. Seems like we're we may skip the M3 generation in a lot of other products. 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I think that's Apple's intention. 

John David Wright  
Like Like I kind of hope we skip M3 in the Mac studio because I really want an M4 Ultra Mac studio really bad. 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah I think that's that's sort of What I was getting at with the process improvements is because the M3 was using the N 3E process node, it was much more expensive for Apple to produce. So as soon as they had N3B out and ready to go, they're like, Okay, let's switch everything over to that, like they're going to stop producing those and try to get those margins where they want them to be. So yeah, I'm pretty sure we're not going to see an M3 Mac studio or or whatever else have you? Obviously, it's, I don't think they would release a, they wouldn't release a new product with an older lower number, M series processor in it now, but now that's definitely the case. But I was shocked because the M3 is all of less than six months old.

John David Wright  
Not very much. Yeah,

Josh Rogers  
it's not been out for very long. And

John David Wright  
then they come at us again, with new display technology, which kind of arguably, I don't know if it's like a cooler announcement than them for for I guess, because we knew the end for was coming eventually. But they're calling this the ultra retina XDR. And, of course, in Apple marketing terms, because Joz is always going to come up with something the world's most advanced display. It's the first OLED display on an iPad. But the cool part about this is this. This may be the first tandem OLED on the market. That's what this category is called. Basically, they're stacking two OLED panels on top of each other. So kind of I know that wasn't enough. So how about to How about to you got to get those peak brightness man, which is crazy, because you you get 1000 nits full screen sustained, which is actually really hard to do.

Josh Rogers  
That makes this now also the brightest display that Apple has ever made. Maybe only maybe only matched by the pro display XDR

John David Wright  
I would say so you remember this Josh from NAB last year, but we saw the new Sony mastering display that's like $50,000 or whatever. And theirs is two LCDs stacked on top of each other. And one was doing the brightness and one was doing the color essentially, kind of similar to like QD OLED technology, but

Josh Rogers  
but just blasting a crapload of light through the back of the LCD, 

John David Wright  
and that thing was so thick, 

Josh Rogers  
it was probably five inches thick, 

John David Wright  
at least. So anyways to go from that to this, like I am pretty excited about it.

Josh Rogers  
It's just as I'm not gonna say it's just as good as a display because it's probably not the Sony grading monitors probably better but a similar level of performance, I will say at least in generalities, in an iPad that is 5.1 millimeters the thinnest. It's insane product Apple's ever made. Like you said, 1000 nits full screen 1600 nits peak brightness, and it's OLED. So while it can compete while it's on par with the pro display XDR in terms of like brightness, it's going to have much better like local dimming performance. So it's your actual true inky blacks, you're not gonna have any like glowing or haloing because like I have a pro display XDR, and I can see it there's a black screen and you have like, like when the Mac boots up, it's got a black screen with the white Apple logo in the middle. You can see the ghosting around it and that makes me feel icky for how much I pay for this monitor if I'm being Oh yeah, I'm being serious.

John David Wright  
I mean technically there is no local dimming.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, it's pixel Yeah, that's perfect. So and it also does the it also has promotion so it's adaptive between 10 and 120 hertz refresh rate and my pro display XDR is locked at 60

John David Wright  
which is insane. Apple also is bringing nano texture to the iPad. I got my hands on it and an Apple store recently. It's pretty cool. I mean, just like any matte finish, you're losing some resolution and some sharpness and but for a matte it looks good.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I went normal glossy display, I probably would have gone nano texture at first glance, but you could only get it on the one and two terabyte models and I just don't need that much storage went on iPads. So it was an immediate No for me,

John David Wright  
which is so dumb. They're also, if you don't get a one or two terabyte model, your M4 chip  has cores disabled, the only way to get a non binned chip is to get the one terabyte model. So I guess Josh can explain binned. 

Josh Rogers  
Binning really comes from just the realities of chip manufacturing. So it's if you don't know manufacturing, the the SOC s and microprocessors and all these transistors on these tiny little silicon wafers is probably about one of the most advanced things we as humans have ever done. The scale is literally unfathomable. that they're working on we're like in the realm of atoms and building tiny little structures that like literally atom scale. So it turns out, it's really hard to do that consistently. So we get this thing binning. This is how people like Apple or not Apple, Apple buys the chips, but TSMC and Samsung are able to produce economically viable versions of these chips is because they make millions and millions of them. Some of them are going to be defective, but that's okay. If maybe like one of the little GPU cores is like flaky or not working right, they can just disable that sell it as a lower end version of the of the processor, and then they can still make some money on that instead of having to throw it away. Because especially on some of these new like N3B, and N3E process notes, the yields to start out are extremely low, like apples probably or TSMC. So I keep saying apple instead of TSMC. But TSMC is probably throwing away. Double digit percentages of chips, or would be throwing away double digit percentages of chips, I'm sure they are throwing away some single digit percentage of them. But thanks to binning, and some you know wiggle room, that's how we get things like the M3 Max and M3 pro. An M3 Pro is just an M3 Max with some bug in some part of the chip design, whether it's on a GPU core or CPU core, they just turn those off and sell it for a lower price.

John David Wright  
That was better than I could explain it. So that was great. Speaking of M4, we've got four performance cores, next gen ml accelerators because Apple chooses to say machine learning when talking about this, but then their whole, like when they choose to say ml and when they choose to say AI is very inconsistent. They've never said AI until keynote until this keynote now, which is which is also interesting.

Josh Rogers  
But I was I was again I was watching this keynote in in an Uber on the way to the airport. What did they say AI about?

John David Wright  
They basically they're saying the M4 is like designed for AI.

Josh Rogers  
They're teeing they're teeing up for WWDC? 

John David Wright  
Yep for new iOS. 

Josh Rogers  
There's yeah, there's big rumors for

John David Wright  
It's not like, it's not like designed for AI. Like every Apple chip that's ever had a neural engine is designed for AI. Like, again, it goes back to there's some more Joz, marketing stuff happening. We also have six efficiency cores. 50% faster CPU performance versus the M2 iPad Pro, or Apple numbers 10 core GPU, Ray tracing to the iPad for the first time. So for nobody that plays games on the iPad,

Josh Rogers  
are trying so desperately to get said to us for like gaming on an iPad.

John David Wright  
But for us, they showed octane on an iPad, which is kind of funny. For those that don't know, Octane is a 3d rendering engine that you can use with an app called cinema 4d.

Josh Rogers  
So how does that work? Do you I'm not familiar this world, Cole probably has the most experience and take it away. And that how octane works.

Cole Sullivan  
I don't even know how you would run it on an iPad. Like,

Josh Rogers  
That's my question. I'm like, how do you interface cinema 4d with this?

John David Wright  
Do you just send your models over? Like? Are you networking them together? I don't really know. I

Cole Sullivan  
 don't know. Like you make a render farm and dude, Team render clients on iPads like what is it a practical

John David Wright  
I mean, it's a fast chip. fastest single core was

Cole Sullivan  
Will Maxon ever make an iPad app,

Josh Rogers  
I found an article about when it came out. Supposedly this Octane X app came out in 2022. It doesn't say anything about the logistics of how you get your file onto there, you may have to just have something on the iPad that already does that.

John David Wright  
You can use the great files app to browse your files. So we also have four times faster pro rendering performance than the M2 on an iPad, they demoed some AI rotoscoping in Final Cut Pro on an iPad which looks really cool, Pro Res and av1 hardware accelerators. So we've had Pro Res and HD six four before I believe. This is the first time they've mentioned AV1, which I actually don't know much about AV1 Josh

Josh Rogers  
AV1 there wasn't the iPhone 15 pros, the Pro and Pro Max were the first ones that had AV one. accelerators. I don't remember I think it may have just been decode accelerators not encode accelerators for playing back AV1 is a really popular encoding scheme for big streamers like Netflix and Hulu and Disney plus. 

John David Wright  
YouTube right? 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, maybe YouTube as well. It's it's kind of like the open source version of h265, if I remember right, probably even better than h265. The reason that the big reason for having these hardware accelerators on mobile devices though, is battery life. So instead of using the general purpose CPU clock cycles to decode all these like very complicated video compression schemes, you can hardware accelerate it and your battery life. Watching a video skyrockets because you're offloading it to this very dedicated ASIC, which is application specific integrated circuit that does a very specific task

John David Wright  
Basically an afterburner Apple afterburner.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah. We we all had Mac Pros at one point in time, but I don't think any one of us bought the afterburner card, thankfully, because that would be a really,

I had one at my last jobby job that would be a real embarrassing

thing to have spent money on because now an iPad has more afterburner performance, quote, unquote, afterburner performance Pro Res accelerated?

John David Wright  
Well, it isn't now it wasn't at the time,

Josh Rogers  
but it's just funny how quickly that happened. It was this whole was it, it was a $2,000. Add in card that you would put on a PCIe slot. 

John David Wright  
It was as big as like for iPhones.

Josh Rogers  
 That computer came out. That computer came out four years ago, or five years five years ago. Five years? Yeah. Wait 2019 2020 to now it's been one hell of a blur.

John David Wright  
I'm the am I the only one that still has one?

Cole Sullivan  
I still have mine. I haven't sold it yet. But it's can be for sale if anyone's closet. Yep. I

Josh Rogers  
got rid of I got rid of mine. I couldn't. I was it was it was plummeting money. And I had upgraded the CPU in it to the 28 core. So I actually was able to get a little bit of decent money back for it.

John David Wright  
You got what five grand out of it. 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I sold it for like five grand. I purchased it. I purchased it originally for I bought like the base model except for the GPU. It's probably 11,000. Crazy. And then, for those of you don't know, there was a Linus tech tips video that came out a couple years ago. And you could go buy what's called a QS, or quality sample or engineering sample version of a CPU that they will use for qualifying and you can buy them from like eBay sellers in China. And the computer doesn't know. So I bought a an engineering sample 28 core CPU, that was the exact same model that Apple sold for the Mac Pro, and I took the heatsink off, put a new CPU, put some thermal grease back on heatsink back on and I had a 28 core Mac Pro, which was what a $15,000 upgrade from Apple if you bought it. So I did it just for the just for the lols. Because why not? But

John David Wright  
I mean, it inspired me to do it. For those that don't know, QC sample is basically they would print a couple of chips and test them before they started mass printing them, or

Josh Rogers  
they send them to like motherboard manufacturers, people who make peripherals just to do just to do like validation on other hardware.

John David Wright  
I ended up doing that with mine. I went a 16 core instead, you went and medium? Yeah, I focused more on, I tried to hit a good margin between like clock speed and core size, it's probably the reasonable decision. Well, because at my last jobby job, I had a 28 core and there were certain not everything's multi threaded still. And there were some tasks that just took way too freaking long. But you know, you win some you lose some. M4, I was excited about this, we've got 120 gigabit sorry, gigabyte per second unified memory bandwidth. That's the first upgrade we've seen to that stat,

Josh Rogers  
it's going to be really great for me scrolling Safari.

John David Wright  
But look ahead to the max and the ultra times that by four. And that's what our memory bandwidth is going to be in those chips.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, for on a serious note Blackmagic recently announced the micro color panel that's supposed to work with the Blackmagic app on the iPad. So if you're doing some really, I mean, now the iPads fully capable of doing some pretty serious editing work on in resolve or in Final Cut. You could have some probably 12k Black Magic footage that you're coloring, you probably even do multiple streams of it now, which is insane on an iPad with no fan

John David Wright  
four more streams of Pro Res raw versus the M1. Yeah, that's just wild. The fact that you can even do four streams on an iPad is insane. Thunderbolt four USB four, which is always nice. I really liked this feature. So I typed it in. The Apple logo is copper. And there's graphite sheets on the case. So the Apple logo is essentially a heat sink.

Josh Rogers  
Is it a new thing?

John David Wright  
Yeah, it's for this model. Cool. You should download Cinebench and, or not Cinebench, Geekbench and just like roast the processor for a couple minutes and see if it warms up.

Josh Rogers  
I think it costs money. I think Geekbench is paid so I've have not I've looked at this before some YouTuber has already done it 100 times I don't need to 

John David Wright  
 yeah that's true 

Josh Rogers  
peripherals we got some cool new peripherals for the iPad I opted for the the folio this I'm on if they call it the slim folio or whatever it is, but it's the just the cover with like the little triangle foldy bit on the front so it can prop up the iPad. I've had the keyboard in the past, but the new keyboard looks really nice. The new magic keyboard is the one that's like cantilevered . It's kind of has the iPad floating above the keyboard. It's got a full function row up top now. And the trackpad now has haptics in it which is really cool. I got the chance to try when I'm sure you did at the store. A friend of mine that I saw over the weekend had one 

John David Wright  
I forgot to try the haptics

Josh Rogers  
The haptics in the trackpad field just as good as a MacBook and also big update that they probably talked about but again I missed this in watching the keynote the the the previous magic keyboards have had the same like gummy texture that like the folio does on the front of it. So it kind of got gross. The new ones are aluminum, the like the surface of its aluminum

John David Wright  
on on the top with the trackpad and keyboard. Yeah, yes, it

Josh Rogers  
feels a lot nicer.

John David Wright  
The other side is still the gummy one feels a lot nicer. It does. I mean, it kind of looks like a MacBook Air sitting there. Another cool thing the pass through charging on a magic keyboard. The last gen was only like 20 or 30 watts. For these new iPads, they've upped it to 60 watts.

Josh Rogers  
I don't even know if an iPad can charges 60 Watts, maybe so

John David Wright  
maybe with the M4 it can. But I thought that was cool like you even if you're doing some pretty heavy stuff you don't need to worry about

Josh Rogers  
and then we got yet another Apple Pencil. 

John David Wright  
Yeah, I mean, whatever the squeezes cool, 

Josh Rogers  
the squeeze is very cool. 

John David Wright  
I opened up procreate in the Apple Store. And they didn't even have the new version that supported it. I was just like, I can't even demo this thing.

Josh Rogers  
The freeform app that comes in iPad OS does have the squeeze. And it's really cool. There's a little taptic motor in like the head of the pencil and there's just a pressure sensor around the grip area. And when you click 

John David Wright  
it feels a lot like the the air pod pros. 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, it feels just like that when you squeeze the stem on an air pod, you get this little, just a little bit of of haptic feedback and it's extremely satisfying, you still get the double tap to double tap on the pencil to switch tools. And then also now there's a I don't know what you call the rotational sensing, but it's got like a gyro sensor. So now like the orientation that you're holding the pencil in now will correlate to like if you're using a fountain pen tool inside of procreate or in the freeform app. As you're drawing, that tool will change. You know what your actual not just the angle of the pencil but like the rotation of the pencil, which is cool. And then fun Easter egg that I saw on a an X or Twitter, whatever you want to call it. It's still Twitter and Twitter. Quinn, Quinn snazzy labs posted this video right before I got my iPad of the crazy attention to detail. And this is the kind of things that only Apple would do and no one else would do. When you hover the pencil over the I think this only works in the freeform app right now. Maybe procreate will add this if there's like a like a framework for this, but you hover you hover the when the pencil gets close to the screen, it does a shadow of whatever tool you're you have selected on the pencil over the screen. So if you have a fountain pen tool selected, when you get the pencil close to the screen, it looks like the shadow a fountain pen, even down to the fact is like fountain pens have a little bit of hole in the nib. You can see like the hole in the shadow, just crazy attention to detail. That's the kind of things that Apple does that just make me so happy.

John David Wright  
It's so cool. And then at the end, I paused and looked at the fine print. I don't even know if it was in the fine print. But Apple specifically called out that the keynote was shot on iPhone and edited on Mac and iPad. So I kind of wondered this and it looks like it's going to be true. All the keynotes are going to be shot on the iPhone from now on.

Josh Rogers  
I have so many mixed feelings about that

Cole Sullivan  
shot on iPhone with the Fisher dolly and

John David Wright  
in skypanel S60s on there or s or 360s on their own Fisher dollies, but I don't know. I mean, I think it goes back to kind of what we talked about last week. Like I think it's fun to push the envelope. You know, it's like kind of capitalism working like you know their sensor. It's cool. Yeah, whatever. Like it's fine. It was fun strada, the new video application on YouTube that the frame IO guy Michael Cioni is doing. They're like shooting all their stuff on iPhone and like comparing it to the Excel and I'm

Josh Rogers  
so interested in The strada app, this is totally off the rails thing from an iPad. But the strada apps very interesting to me. But it's really funny because the YouTube videos that they keep making and they've made a lot of them don't have anything directly to do with the product that they're making. They did like a whole 20 minute deep dive on how to shoot like cinematic video with an iPhone using a depth of field adapter and like aI depth, depth of field mapping and stuff. And they made an image that looked damn near just as good as a Monstro. Like, and they did some with a anamorphic glass. The I think they did the Mercury's right. They did the Atlas Mercury's which I had meant to talk about last week. But we did not talk about the Atlas Mercurys I looked at the Atlas markers at NAB, I think those are a top of my list for some anamorphic. So I'm going to be getting but yeah, there's a they've been doing this video series, these shroud has been doing these video series on YouTube. All kinds of cool, crazy workflow stuff. Very interesting. Michael Cioni is genius.

John David Wright  
He's brilliant. It's kind of funny, you brought that up, because I was actually thinking about this the other day, I feel like they're just like, part of their social strategy is to be useful. Yeah, and like, just to get subscribers and followers and like, just be a kind of in line with what their product is. They're just trying to help video professionals. And I think, you know, that's kind of what they're making content about, which I think school, I am curious to see, I still want you to get into a beta because I think y'all actually use it at emo,

Josh Rogers  
I signed up for the beta, they're not taking very many people in

John David Wright  
make sense. I'm sure it's really expensive. All the server costs,

Josh Rogers  
it doesn't seem fully fleshed out. And honestly, for what I'm doing at work, it wouldn't. There's, there's underlying reasons as to why it wouldn't work because we use lucid link as our main like Cloud Storage, and they don't have any sort of interface of lucid link, just something loose link us that they're working on. But we'll cover that in another topic.

John David Wright  
But speaking of lucid link, kind of big news in the post production world, lucid link went down.

Josh Rogers  
That's a hard pivot. This is a hard pivot from the iPad. But this was something I dealt with, right before I went on vacation. So it's a little bit of the late news, but we finally got some good information on it. For those that don't know what lucid link is, and this is shifting hard from Apple tech into like post production workflows. But if you have a remote, if you have a team that's comprised, basically, of all remote people like your editors and colorists and producers that are strewn across the country or the world even, and not in a post house, like you would traditionally, media management can be very difficult and also very expensive. Lucid link, while still very expensive, is somewhat cheaper alternative than like traditional AWS workflows. But lucid link is basically a NAS in the cloud, it's really great. You can upload all your files to it. And mounts on your desktop, just like an external drive does and does a really great job. As long as you have fast internet, we need good Internet of pretending like all the files are just there, it's kind of lying to the operating system. And like, whenever you drag a clip into Premiere, and like run your playhead across it in Premiere, it's just shuffling in those bits in the background right behind the playhead. And then stores a local cache of those on your disk and you can allot however much space you want to give it to that cache. But makes it to where if you've got a good like if you've got good fiber Internet, you can play Alexa clips right out of the cloud. No downloading required on your from your timeline, it's kind of insane. We've been using it for about three years now. We kind of pivoted to it. We when when COVID happened, we had like a lot of people hurriedly moved everything into Dropbox, we had some kerfuffles with Dropbox, and they just like wasn't working out well. And the we found lucid Link and shuffled all of our data over to them and kind of never looked back. And they've been the only competitor in that field for a while and has been honestly really rock solid. until about a week ago, I got a text from one of our editors, it was like, Hey, I'm having some trouble logging in the lucid link, what's happening like, and they sent me a screenshot of the error. And I'd seen this error before and I was like, oh just quit the app and re login. They try that still wasn't working. And another editor was like, Hey, I can't get in, and then another one and another one. And so I went to lucid links slack. And they were like, Hey, we're aware of a major issue that's causing a lot of our customers have lost access to their files like we're investigating. And I think I'd saw this like maybe like 10 minutes after that had happened. Proceeded to be one of the most chaotic days. I guess it was chaotic in a lot of ways but also not chaotic because I just couldn't do anything about it. Just watching the status updates come through. I'm going to read from lucid Link's blog post on their support website about what happened for the lucid link outage on this is on April 29 2024. It says on April 29 2024 at approximately 1255 UTC, lucidly experienced a malicious attack against our service resulting in an outage that affected all customers, access was fully restored for everyone on May 1 2024. So it's about a day or two later, it was a long time we're about we're down for nearly 48 hours. We're extremely sorry for the disruption the outage has had on our customers. And then they went on to say they, you know, they're pulling in law enforcement and legal and whatever, it was a malicious attack. Basically, there's, I don't want to get too into the weeds about how lucid link is set up. But there's a desktop app, object storage where all the data lives, there's a metadata service, that lucid link host that basically tells the client on your computer where all the files are located in the object storage. And then there's a discovery service that runs on the client that links your cloud storage to your machine or whatever, someone had written. My stuff, I can find, there's a better better explanation on here, they there was some piece of malicious software that caused that attack, the metadata servers and the metadata servers all all went offline, which no idea why the metadata servers would be attacked in the first place, because lucid link operates on a zero trust infrastructure. So like, You are the only person with the keys that can decrypt your data. Like even if you want to get lucid link support. Once that's happening, you have to go manually in your service, add a lucid link, like support user, and then send them that login credential for them to be able to do anything they have. It's really great, really secure, like, they're certified for like HIPAA, and sock to compliance, all that stuff. It's way above my head, but it's there. Anyways, they had this motion attack that caused all the metadata servers to drop to go offline. And then what happened is, when that metadata servers all went offline, all of the loose, everyone's lucidly clients, everyone that used the service at one time, all tried to reconnect. So they DDoS themselves when the metadata servers went offline, which is kind of hilarious. I mean, not that there was anything to connect to. But if they had been there, they would have DDoS themselves. And so like that was the first initial reaction was they thought they were under fire from a DDoS attack. Turns out that wasn't the case. There's still little detail to come out with so you know, the details of who, who they think it was, or why if there even is a motive other than just to screw with somebody, I don't know. But, you know, all of these big cloud providers, like they have service level agreements with clients. And you know, a lot of people talk about 11 nines of reliability or data durability, I can assure you 11 nines basically means in an SLA, it's like there's 99.9999, however many nines it takes to get to 11 nines of like, resiliency, I assure you 48 hours of downtime, in a year does not live up to 11 nines, not even close, it's got to be NO WAY 99 Was that math workout to was 365.

John David Wright  
The they owe people money,

Josh Rogers  
they ended up giving us they were very generous and offered us two days worth of credit for the downtime. I mean, I don't really that's not even the point, it doesn't matter. Like they could have, they could have given me a month free, it really doesn't matter. Like I think a lot of people there's, like I said there was there's a lucid link slack and very active those two days a lot of people joined and a lot of people learned some really hard lessons about data hygiene and backups, and being able to recover from a failure like that, because the cloud is not infallible. Turns out. Luckily, I had some I had some pretty recent backups that were about 24 hours old. And we were able to spin up a service on a lucid link competitor that I had, luckily was already demoing at the time called Suite studios, shout out to them. They're basically feature parity with lucid link out at work. I already had a server spun up with them. But I hadn't doled out any permissions to use yet. I was just testing it myself. After I realized about late in the afternoon of the first day that it was down that this was going to be some time we were looking at being down tomorrow, I started uploading my backups to some critical projects that were active there. And we got all our editors back online for that day. And then the following day, lucid link was back up. And we just moved everything back over. But great, great time to talk about backups and not relying on a single copy of anything, even if it's in the cloud, the cloud can go offline, it's just a bunch of hard drive. We didn't lose, we didn't lose any data. They were very they were very clear about that. They said you don't know you know, no information was leaked or data was lost. But just because it's lost if you don't have access to it, it might as well be lost. All

John David Wright  
Yeah, like clients need their stuff.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, you know, people obviously are always making a big stink about that, which rightly so. But you know, there's a lot of people in the in the slack say, you know, we're going to be losing like our major client over this, which again, but at the same time, I feel like there's just got to be some there's got to be some wiggle room for grace and things that are out of your control. But sometimes there's not sometimes there's not

John David Wright  
sometimes those people are over exaggerating.

Josh Rogers  
So yeah, 321 backups, three copies, two mediums. One separate location, you've got to follow this rule. I'm a huge stickler about it. Everything I have is adhering to three two one. And I think y'all are the same. Yep,

Cole Sullivan  
get backblaze e, if you don't have it, super cheap, super easy even for laptop people Backblaze, very small storage, use Backblaze.

Josh Rogers  
 Backblaze It's like 100 bucks a year versus 70 bucks a year, some like that showing 70 100 bucks a year, like $7 a month, you install it on your computer, and it just backs up your entire computer continuously in the background. And they have unlimited storage, even for if you have external hard drives that are connected to it, it'll backup those hard drives, and it'll keep them backed up. As long as you connect those hard drives, I think once every, like 90 days, might even be plugged in that

John David Wright  
they're backing up, like 80 terabytes for me, 

Josh Rogers  
you're abusing that service. 

John David Wright  
I don't think I'm gonna be using it. They're offering it

Josh Rogers  
you're using it according you're using it to the letter of the rule, but not to the spirit of the rule.

John David Wright  
I mean, whatever,

Josh Rogers  
which is fine. I don't, I take no issue with that. I just think it's funny here.

John David Wright  
I mean, it's I don't know, they're a great service,

Josh Rogers  
I am also doing the same thing. I have a very large 150 terabyte DAS sitting on my desk at work that is backed up to Backblaze via their personal backup plan.

John David Wright  
They know I'm using it while they can see how much space I'm using. Yeah, I've been a customer of theirs for I don't know, maybe 10 years. Like it's been awesome I've had to restore files, they're always great 

Josh Rogers  
Backblaze along with one password are two products that I will probably evangelize until I die.

Cole Sullivan  
We're on data still shot put has a beta, or we're talking about backing up data.

John David Wright  
Yeah. Do we want to talk about this demoed it? 

Cole Sullivan  
I feel like you've demoed it the most JD, maybe not, 

John David Wright  
I had an email. So for those that don't know, shotput Pro is a application that we use in the production space. It essentially takes one copy of data and replicates it into as many places as you want. And then runs verification via whatever checksum you want to do. And then creates really nice PDF reports with thumbnails and it's fairly inexpensive. It's really easy to use, and it just gives you a nice little thumbs up of hey, I copied this data over and verified it and it's secure. This was a while ago now probably six months ago, Josh, I got an email like, Hey, we're launching a new product called shotput. Studio. Do you want to be in the beta? And I said yes. And then I got Josh in on it. And it's a for those that know shotput. Pro, it is basically that but adds a lot of features around it. You get transcoding which is really nice. In theory, I haven't used it since they released the full version. You've got cloud uploads, workflows. I think Josh actually tested it more than me. So Josh, if you want to take it away,

Josh Rogers  
I hit it pretty hard for the first couple days that it was out. And like gave us a bunch of feedback on their slack, which they were or discord they were doing the bait on Discord, gave a bunch of feedback. Initially, it was all stuff that they received pretty well. And honestly, I got sucked into some other stuff. I haven't looked at it again. But shotput is another app that I'm a big fan of will give them money instantly, because I like the product. And I need to go actually get the the full Studio app because it just came out like the other day.

John David Wright  
Yeah, like last week, in we I need chick discord. But we're supposed to have those like special discounts since we're in the beta.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, that was the main incentive that they were getting people in the beta for was they were saying if you were able to contribute in any way to the beta, that they would offer you a discount on the final release product. So

John David Wright  
it was cool. I thought they will, you know, a lot of people that say that kind of stuff. They're kind of blowing smoke, but they actually were like, taking feedback and like releasing builds, like almost daily, almost daily, like at least once a week and fixing everything. And one of our biggest complaints or was that trans codes were really slow. Like it wasn't utilizing all the resources of the system. And I know they fixed that for multiple cameras.

Josh Rogers  
That's got to happen. It was it was it was that it was it was software encoding. It wasn't doing hardware encoding.

John David Wright  
Yep. TBD on what we actually think about it, but

Josh Rogers  
I have some shoots coming up that I'll probably be able to use it on in the next couple of weeks. So that well, we'll have a shoot together. Yeah, Cole and John David are coming to San Francisco to shoot with me in a couple of weeks.

Cole Sullivan  
So a lot of data to move on that will have a lot of

John David Wright  
it'll probably be a 10 terabyte shoot.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah. And that'll be I think we'll our next our next episode will be after that. So that'll be a good a good time. 

John David Wright  
We should totally We should totally get it and use it. That'd be fun. 

Josh Rogers  
Other computer, IT, whatever related topic and this I have nothing to say on this, but you two will have a lot to say is Parsec versus jump, and I'll also throw Teradici in there, it's a little bit lesser known, but it was kind of the goat least as far as I knew of remote desktop software. I've just been using VNC lately, but uh, you guys are actually remotely editing through was parsec. And now jump jump desktop is what I think it's actually called.

John David Wright  
Yeah jump desktop

Cole Sullivan  
So the other side to have backup a little bit of what Josh is doing with lucid link. Managing media and large sizes. The other kind of side is doing screen draw software to where you host your media somewhere else. It with all the machines local to the media. And you can have editors or other people pop in to those machines cross country across the city. It's kind of another common way of solving that. So VNC is probably the OG

Josh Rogers  
VNC. It's like a It's an old Linux. Yep, piece of software.

John David Wright  
Yeah, you don't get audio latency is good luck.

Cole Sullivan  
And so I think JD had found this company called Jump, that we kind of tested a while back a couple years ago, I tried it for my jobby job, we signed a contract with Parsec, which started in the gaming field, and over COVID kind of pushed it really good marketing. And they kind of got out of gaming a little bit and pushed in some into some other areas. So we signed on with parsec. They were very, very open to feedback at first and any thing that we gave them to fix, they fixed and it was really solid. And then Sonoma came out, and it went to crap. And the compression and blocking is terrible. You can't really read text. We went months and months with no fix, and they couldn't figure it out. So we did some testing with jump back to JDS original recommendation after he spent months telling me that Parsec was going to be terrible. And it had a good run. It really did. we demoed Teradici they still don't support Sonoma, they're definitely PC friendly.

John David Wright  
It's so expensive.

Josh Rogers  
Teradici is very enterprise focused. Like they're they were their own company. HP bought them rebranded it to HP anywhere. Very corporate at enterprise, the type of software. And

John David Wright  
then Parsec was like complete opposite where it was like very gaming focused, but also similar to Teradici. Where there wasn't much feature parity, like a lot of features on windows, not a lot on Mac.

Cole Sullivan  
Yeah. And jump feels like you just got hacked, basically. I mean, it's just a terrible UI. But it's solid, I mean, at least terrible compared to parsec.

Josh Rogers  
You mean like the chrome around the app, but like once you're in your remote desktop, it's fine. 

Cole Sullivan  
Once you're in it is fine. Yeah. 

John David Wright  
Well, their websites bad. Like, I just don't think they're marketing people. I think it's I just think it's a really small team.

Josh Rogers  
 I wrote them off for the longest time just because the website looked terrible.

John David Wright  
 I did too. And then when I like first went freelance in 2021. There's this editor I follow. That's in nowhere, Mississippi doesn't have very many followers, which makes no sense because he's very, very good. He had taken a picture that he was like, editing on like, some back deck at a cabin. And I was like, What are you using? Because I've tried to find something for years. And he was like jump desktop. And I looked into it. And I was like, are like, I'd sent him the link. I was like, Is this what you're using? Because it didn't look legit at all? And he was like, Yeah, it's amazing. And it's like $30 for personal use and been using it ever since it's amazing.

Josh Rogers  
Do they have a teams? Do they have a team setup? 

Cole Sullivan  
They do. So they have Enterprise, you can do SSO. They have iPad apps, iPhone apps. So you can I mean, it is very, very robust. And so far, the latency and resolution has been much much improved over parsec. 

Josh Rogers  
Wow, I have yet to even try it yet. But based on what you guys are saying I'm going to have to might have to spin it up maybe later this week or next week.

John David Wright  
One of the things that didn't work very well with parsec is so my computer layout I've got a 27 inch 1440 p monitor in the middle and then on the left side, I have a 1080 p monitor that I have flipped vertically. And that's usually where I put my project bins or scripts or something and in Parsec it was very like basic screen resolution support Have you essentially got 1080 p or 1440 P and that was kind of it. With jump, it's really cool, you can add up to four virtual displays. And you do all of this. You don't need to set this up pre like you don't need to set it up on on the host computer, each client computer can set this up, according to however they want to do it. So I went in the menu bar and added two virtual displays. And I full screen them on each of my screens. And it takes you know, the typical MacOS delay of a couple of seconds, but after it, re adjust its pixel space, like it'll do whatever pixel space you want.

Josh Rogers  
Are the computers remoting into Apple, silicon or Intel. They're out there Apple silicon.

Cole Sullivan  
Yeah, you can't own Parsec we never got it to natively do either ultra wide or vertical displays.

John David Wright  
I think it's supported on Windows but not mac. Yeah. was another one of those things,

Cole Sullivan  
which a lot of posts people either have, like I like one or the other now. Yeah, like

John David Wright  
it's a lot of malt. Like, there's a lot of Mac's still. And there's a good bit of windows now. 

Cole Sullivan  
Yeah. So big, big props, to jump so far, so good out of lots of minds involved and testing several softwares jump is kind of, we've jumped to them,

John David Wright  
jump, you jump into jump, jumping to jump,

Cole Sullivan  
the maybe this the last tech ish related thing, the Vimeo decline. I don't know who dropped this in me. But I was getting pissed off at Vimeo this weekend. I don't know if this is something new that changed. But I over several days. So years and years ago, Josh and I started shooting weddings. And that's kind of how we got into the film world. Or one of the ways. And about a week ago, I had like three, I used to host wedding videos on Vimeo. And I started getting texts from old clients from like, eight years ago. And they were like, hey, my videos, not available videos not available. I was like, What is going on? And I think Vimeo I don't know if it's new, or if I just hit a deadline if this is related or not. But they want me to basically up my tier to access videos older than a certain age. That's just dirty. No. So a I don't know if this is part of that change. But there's videos that I can't download or watch. But it shows that they're still hosted there. And it is like a paywall upgrade to stream videos that are still hosted 

Josh Rogers  
keep local copies of all of your stuff.

John David Wright  
Yes, 321. So I know a couple years ago, they got a new CEO, because they went all in on live streaming and like self hosting a bunch of stuff. And it it just got so stingy. And it was clear that they were never making any money. And I put this in our show note document because I went to update my website the other day, which is still so out of date. And it's like five gigs a week upload limit. And I'm uploading like I uploaded a short film that I colored for Alabama Power. And it was 15 minutes. And we mastered it at 4k. And so I wanted the full 15 minute 4k version up there because it looks really nice. And of course that's bigger than five gig. So I had to upgrade from plus to pro and I was like so mad about it. But I'll just like there's, there's still not really anything better to host videos that isn't going to show you ads like like YouTube is a much better video hosting platform, but I don't want like I don't want people trying to look at my work and getting served ads. You know, like, I don't feel like there's a better solution for this.

Cole Sullivan  
I don't feel like they have added or changed a single feature and years and years. I

John David Wright  
mean they have we just don't use them.

Cole Sullivan  
I mean, they still haven't adopted the tap to fast forward, which I feel like has come way out of YouTube and frama frame supports it now and

John David Wright  
well they're focusing on all this other crap, like they've they've got a frame competitor. Yeah. For video review. They've got all the all this AI feature bullcrap. Like, you know, I've I feel like they're just on a road to try to be profitable, and they're gonna end up just nuking the entire thing. It's just thing after thing that like we've been on video, Vimeo for how long? Like 15 20 years, you know, yeah. And it's just like they are abandoned. They're just like abandoning just so many of their old clients. It's just frustrating.

Cole Sullivan  
It is. Well I think that's the potentially last software related item that we have. Quick follow up from last week on the light discussion. I went Godox we got six or seven I think we landed at seven of the P300s unboxed them today

Josh Rogers  
Are they called P300s? 

Cole Sullivan  
Yeah, they are. 

Josh Rogers  
That's hysterical. Just straight up ripping the product name off from aperture. That's bold.

John David Wright  
Did you get bi-color or the RGB

Cole Sullivan  
the RGB? Um, let me verify that they're P300, I'm pretty sure that's there's a Kowled yeah,P 300 R

Josh Rogers  
amazing.

John David Wright  
Yeah, cuz my mine's p 300. By BI for bi-color. And then you can get a P 300 R hard. But she went with the soft ones right?

Cole Sullivan  
I did. I went with soft because they'll go in a studio setting and I don't really need actually, we'll put soft boxes on them to get them softer than they are but bought those, unbox them today spent probably 10 minutes with them. Build quality is incredible. The ballasts is built into the panel. They're pretty, pretty chunky, and they're heavy fixtures, but so far, very impressed with them. Nice. More to come. 

John David Wright  
Yeah excited to see how you end up liking them. Once you get them installed and going

Josh Rogers  
JD, why don't you jump right into your underwater housing camera.

John David Wright  
A couple weeks ago, I I mentioned this shoot last last episode. This was the one where I was drone operator slash like AC slash second AC slash DIT the shoot at the lake. And the DP wanted to do some shots where they were jumping off the boat with talent. And then also some shots where they were in the water. No like diving or anything. But just you know, wanted to get camera in the water doing some split level stuff. And so he was kind of asking me if I had experience with underwater stuff. And I had like 15 years ago, worked at a summer camp in California. And we had back in the day had the Panasonic H VX one hundreds in those zipper bags that that had like the glass filter, and you would kind of smash it against the lens. But it was a zipper bag. And so I was like I've had experience with this. And then I and then I mentioned you know, Gates does like the best dive housings. But I've never worked with one. And she kind of didn't hear anything about it because I wasn't first AC on this one. And so I show up to prep. And there's the gates on underwater housing had sitting on the counter. And I was like cool. We're getting to do this today. And it was B camera. So that was my camera to prep. And so he had clients RED dsmc to forget all the names, but it was 6k sensor, some Arri Ultra primes. Josh, what were you gonna say

Josh Rogers  
I was barfing at dsmc 2

John David Wright  
Oh it's still a good image. It's still great. There's some quirks no doubt about it.

Josh Rogers  
What are some of the quirks that are involved in prepping a camera for an underwater housing? Like how does like it's got to be a very specific fit. I'm so curious like what goes into this

John David Wright  
so gates, they design their housings very specifically for different cameras, as you would imagine. So this was um, this underwater housing I forget the model number the model name but it's like preface it with deep so it was like like deep weapon or deep Gemini or whatever the guy that we had rented this from he's in LA Trent Ellis shout out to him. He was great FaceTime support when we had a couple questions and just wanted to make sure that we had everything set up right before he pressurized it. But he runs the red gemini in this specific housing and so form factors very similar. With the 6k on weapon, it would be the weapon dsmc two whatever it is, or whatever like oh Um, and so, yeah, I stripped the camera down naked, because it had some, you know, wooden camera plates and stuff on there. But honestly, it was kind of straightforward. Gates has a really nice like the way that you can pull focus and Iris and zoom as an operator is on each side of the housing. They had these nice little wheels that are through a series of contraptions and rods and mounting stuff. You've got these little manual Follow Focus gears, essentially. And it's like really, really well. well built, we can link some images in the show notes. It's kind of a little hard to explain over audio. But it was it was honestly like a fairly simple prep like it had the housing had a D Tap cable that I plugged in to the camera to control the camera, we had a redmote. Flashback to dsmc one days,

Josh Rogers  
that still works with dsmc. Two. That's funny. 

John David Wright  
So Trent had like a custom made like adapter to go on the back of the Redmote that adapted it to four pin Lemo. What, and then from four pin. Yeah, that's crazy. And then from four pin Lemo to D tap. And then on the other end of the D tap cable was the control cable for the read. And so I don't really honestly know how this box work, but it enabled the Redmote to work with the dsmc two. And it was really nice. There was a five inch Red Touch from dsmc one that we use and yeah, so basically once we got it all built up and tightened it up. There's three latches to secure the back part to the front and you latch those together and this was one of the times that I FaceTime Trent because because the front lens dome you basically like put it on sideways and then screw it like 45 degrees until it stops. But you can still shake it loose like what like water was definitely going to get in there. I was like this doesn't seem right and so I FaceTime him

Josh Rogers  
Does the pressure hold it?

John David Wright  
Yes. So he was like yes, that's how it goes. So let's pressurize it and then I want you to feel it again and so we go through the it's a there's like a little air pump in this little mini Pelican case and the pumps powered by eight double A batteries and it's got a little gauge on there

Josh Rogers  
roll my eyes so hard

John David Wright  
i know so he obviously because he's a professional ships it without batteries. So we had to have batteries brought to the prep. It's a little gauge on there with some numbers that it's not psi like it it's some are arbitrary gauge, but we we just had to pressurize the housing to be at 100 to 110 of whatever gauge this is and so you're literally just pumping air in there to pressurize it and we get it up to pressure. And he's like alright, grab the front lens hood and like shake it and it's not budging whatsoever. And yeah, it's really freaking heavy. Probably like 50 pounds. 

Josh Rogers  
buoyant in the water, I'm sure 

John David Wright  
Yep, it can dive deeper than than that. Ocean gate. Titanic sub

Josh Rogers  
can it actually I mean, there's no way

John David Wright  
it's like created for like 300 Something feet 420 Maybe. Wow. Which I mean, deeper than a human can go scuba diving. So that's crazy. Yeah, so it was cool. Like it was a fun experience. check that off my bucket list for sure makes me want to buy one but I don't think Birmingham market can support it and not just be a money pit for me. 

Josh Rogers  
Cameras are already money pits. I can only imagine how much of a money pit an underwater housing would be. It's not you know, Alabama is not particularly known for its clear water.

John David Wright  
We actually have one of the cleanest lakes in the country 

Josh Rogers  
news to me. 

John David Wright  
Smith Lake, Alabama. But no, it's not like we're super close to an ocean or anything. But it was really fun. Got to use the gates housing. Shout out to Trent Ellis in LA he was great. Yeah, that was that shoot. It was fun. I feel like it's not An episode of our podcast without ragging on canon a little bit. Josh, you wanna take it away?

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I don't, I don't have much to say other than canon posted on Instagram. I'm sure there was a press release. But I saw on Instagram that they were announcing the Canon r1 Like their new flagship mirrorless SLR. And I got really excited until I realized they announced basically nothing about it. Other than that as a product that is coming, 

Cole Sullivan  
just several years overdue, 

Josh Rogers  
it just feels to me like they're just trying to stave off like they're trying to stave off these, like, notions of them not innovating. But then they go and announce something that's a literal, nothing burger. And there was some specs leaked, which I was going to talk about. But it turns out that the specs that got leaked, were inaccurate and were just like a fault on like, some on like at adorama's website or something like that. They they're just not doing anything. I'm a have been a vicious defender of canon in the past because I really like the C 300. I think it's a great camera. A lot of us have probably mostly shot with Canon cinema cameras in the past. 

John David Wright  
Put a lot of hours on that camera. 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, but I think they're aiming I would hope they're aiming to try to have this out before the Olympics, the Olympics are in two months. I think at the end of July is when they start. So I'm sure there will be some canon r1 's in some photographers, some photographers hand in Paris for the Summer Olympics this year. That's their

John David Wright  
biggest event. Yeah, they bring they bring like multi million dollars worth of gear and let their canon shooters like basically pick whatever they want.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, it's got to beat the a nine mark three, I think that's the that's the current high water line for a great sports camera. The a nine is the nine mark three is is unbelievable. As much as I crap on Sony it's a good camera.

John David Wright  
It is. canon just most of it. Most of their press release was just like very ambiguous like adjectives like amazing AI next level, yada yada whatever, whatever. They they mentioned a lot of like cinema features too, because I feel like they're they're just like so many people have released new cinema cameras, and they're just chilling on the C 300. Mark Three, which, you know, still is a good camera, but it's been what five years

Josh Rogers  
They need an RF mount Cinema Camera that's not the C70 like a year ago.. There was rumors? Three years ago, there was well, that's when the C 300. Mark Three came out,

John David Wright  
I believe or five years ago, was that all right? Might be I think so. The

Josh Rogers  
there was rumors prior to nab about a C 500 Mark Three coming,

Cole Sullivan  
or C 400 rumors.

John David Wright  
I kind of hope they surprise us and have something at Cine Gear we're definitely going to be walking around that Canon booth to see if we can see anything

Cole Sullivan  
If all those cine primes with an RF back. If all that was for is for a C 70. is more of a waste.

John David Wright  
There's no There's no way it's got

Cole Sullivan  
to be something else going 

Josh Rogers  
red's, red's coming for Canon hardcore, especially after the acquisition. Yeah, now it's like Nikon backing them like yeah, it's they're coming for Canon.

John David Wright  
They should be scrambling, hardcore. And I feel like that's what this press release kind of signaled. It's like, hey, don't forget about us

Josh Rogers  
Hey we're doing things.

John David Wright  
We're just being really slow right now. Like we missed the biggest event of the year that we have the biggest booth that but don't worry, we're still making stuff.

Josh Rogers  
I don't think there was a single new Canon product that they announced at NAB, they had a big booth just like always, but there was nothing new. Maybe there was a lens like that. Those are some they had some really, really great Cine glass. So there was the those

John David Wright  
those were announced that are out already. Okay, well, yeah, Canon had a couple new broadcast servos but that was it. But Broadway not cinema. Yeah, like the CJ models, the two thirds like the ones that cover to the before mounts. Yeah. Because they announced the they've had the 17 to 120 for a while and they came out with a 15 to 120 I believe, or 14 120. They extended the wide range of it, but they announced that last year that and then the flex zooms those were the last cinema lenses,

Cole Sullivan  
which those I would love to get my hands on those seem angenieux EZ category.

John David Wright  
They're much smaller than the EZs

Josh Rogers  
 the flex the flex zooms. 

John David Wright  
Yeah, yeah, 

Josh Rogers  
no, they're beefy

Cole Sullivan  
 they're a little chunkier.

John David Wright  
They're girthy but they're not as long as the EZs like they are definitely thicker than the like wider around then the EZs but they were not as long

Josh Rogers  
I want to say they were super heavy too. 

Cole Sullivan  
Yeah, they're heavy.

John David Wright  
But they're they're full frame. They were well i guess the EZ is also, but they were probably 75% of the length of the EZs I bet we saw them at NAB Josh.

Josh Rogers  
Does anyone have an actual dumb over the week,

John David Wright  
I did something pretty dumb. 

Josh Rogers  
Oh Okay

John David Wright  
When I bought my Komodo X in January, I, I got the dsmc three, seven inch touch monitor, because that's what makes a red or red in my opinion, or at least makes it easy to use. And so it comes with their proprietary USB C cable. And by proprietary I mean they flipped two pins on it. I think I talked about this last episode. It's like a hundred dollars

Josh Rogers  
for a Type C cable

John David Wright  
And so it come for a Type C cable. That's probably I mean it's probably USB three spec because that's a lot of data anyways, because it's data power and control which is nice over that one cable. So it came with the short one and I ordered a medium sized one but I wanted like if I wanted to arm out the monitor on a no go arm or something I want to the the longest one that they make, which I think is like 30 inches or something like that. And so I grabbed my Benchmade that was in my pocket my knife. I went to cut the bag open in my knife nicked the cable, and it went through the shielding. I can see wire it didn't make the wire. But it was enough that I had to guess to put some electrical tape on there. Oh, I was mad. I was like Why the f did I just do that 

Cole Sullivan  
on your $100 USBC cable? 

John David Wright  
Yes.

Josh Rogers  
Don't play with knives. 

John David Wright  
It works still

Josh Rogers  
you could have sent it back and be like it came like this.

Cole Sullivan  
They really should wrap that with like that should be in some sort of dummy proof layer. Maybe not.

John David Wright  
I mean,

Josh Rogers  
I think the shielding is the dummy proof layer. 

John David Wright  
Yeah, I just used a laser sharpened knife to open it like an idiot. Should have used scissors or cut away from the cable that would have been smart. Tell us why you went to Paris. What was the catalyst of doing the trip?

Josh Rogers  
So I just got back from a trip to Paris. We came back Friday. It's we're recording on Wednesday. We try to record on Wednesdays first actually my first trip International. I'm such a US domestic boy. I've never been anywhere. Really? Yes. My first trip. I mean, we went on a cruise like last year. I don't think that really counts. We got off on we got off on Disney's private island. So as much however much out of the country that counts. It's technically was Jamaican. I think

John David Wright  
 if you need a passport it count

Josh Rogers  
they looked at my passport when I came back in but that was about it. I didn't get a stamp or anything. So 

John David Wright  
it's only one half point. 

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, I definitely didn't count it. So yeah, we went to Paris, sort of a last minute decision to go. Some friends, some friends of some mutual friends of ours. We went with them. We were talking about wanting to go see Taylor Swift in New Orleans on the eras tour. Because like we like Taylor Swift. I'm a big Swifie. Tickets, you know, so I just I screwed up getting tickets when the actual drop so like we were buying resale tickets and we were looking at going in New Orleans but the tickets for like, if I go to a show, I don't want to sit at the top. I want to have good seats. Like if I'm going to go see the what at this point is the biggest tour of all time. Like I want to have good seats. So I wanted to get floor seats, floor seats in New Orleans are going at the time for like $2,500 A ticket, a seat, or more. It was absolutely insane. I think those tickets at face value were maybe like four or $500 a ticket. 

John David Wright  
Oh my gosh, 

Josh Rogers  
they are a lot more now. And I will tell you why. So we're like let's just, we're just like that's just infeasible. Like I'm okay with paying a premium to go see Taylor like I'd totally do it. But I'm not I can't, I can't swallow $2,500 times there were four of us going I mean, that's 10 grand, that's just obnoxious. So someone jokingly said this was right around the time she was about to do the Asian tour we were joking about going to see her in like Tokyo right before the Super Bowl, but that was kind of too quick. And then we found out Paris shows were happening, like a couple months. And I looked on StubHub and the floor seats in Europe in the US of leg of the heiress tour. It was all it's like assigned seats like their seats and rows on the floor. In the on the European leg. It's all general admission around the stage. So I guess people just don't like that. So the tickets on the floor going for less we're gonna get tickets for like five or $600 a person. Wow. So it was way cheaper for us to fly to Paris have a full Paris vacation and like see Taylor there and we even went to Disneyland Paris for like two or three days on the end of our trip and I think all in all that whole trip costs it would have would have costed us to see to see Taylor in New Orleans that's if we'd gotten four seats I was like I don't know if I'm gonna go I want four seats. Well, I mean yeah, it's an apples to apples compare. Yeah. So and it turns out that that was not an uncommon thing because I'm pretty sure half of our flight going there was like people there to see the eras tour and it was so funny y'all, like we would be out in the city and Paris is a large city like everywhere you you'd see people with like eras tour like T shirts on or just like you'd sit we sat down, this happened in multiple bars, sat down at a bar and you hear like a table over someone say something saying something in French. And I can't speak French but then you just hear Taylor Swift like a table or two over. Swifties took over Paris for like that week. She did four shows back to back. We were there we went night one that we went to the first show after we landed we landed on the eighth and then we went on the ninth to see her. And this was the first show since she did the tortured poets department album and Swifties across the world were envious of me standing 30 feet away from her debuting that set. The era's tour is basically a part two now there's it's like an entirely different show. It's some of its rearranged and its a little bit longer than it was, now it was already a three and a half hour show. It's like edging it's edging, three 345 close to four hours now, I think. She definitely took some some other songs from some other eras off but I thought it was really great for you know, the eras tour is sold out every show everywhere. There are no tickets available at face value every tickets been sold. If you want to see her now you're paying aftermarket prices. She didn't have to rework the show. And I thought it was really great of her to put a bunch of time, effort and money into basically recreating this tour for no additional money. She didn't have to do that. And the show is incredible. There's no one doing it like she's doing it in my opinion. It's like top, top tier production like and she's up there crushing it night after night after night. And it was honestly I transcended It was great.

Cole Sullivan  
I can't believe it's still happening.

Josh Rogers  
We were Yeah, it's been going on for over a year at this point. And 

Cole Sullivan  
I saw her over a year ago on this tour.

Josh Rogers  
Did you Wow. That's crazy. I didnt realize that

Cole Sullivan  
Yeah, it was like the first week in May.

Josh Rogers  
Oh my gosh. So yeah, it was incredible. We spent the then we spent five days in Paris. Paris is absolutely amazing city I was getting I was a little not worried. But I had tempered expectations about Paris because I know people just say it's kind of like the New York of Europe. It's just the big city. I thought it way out class New York in my opinion. I thought it had much more to offer. It was cleaner. The Metro is better. The Metro is one of my favorite things about being in Paris. It's probably a very stereotypical American tourist thing to say, but it was great. Like, it was super efficient, I'd say cleaner than the New York subway. And just more do more to see like it was a great time. We had a great time. We did a lot of great shopping and then we went to Disneyland Paris for a few days. And let me tell you as a Disney Parks aficionado that is the best Disney park I've been to. I fully went in with the expectation that it was going to be okay. Everything we went on, any any ride that we went on inside the Disneyland Paris park that has like a US equivalent so like think Space Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean,  Big Thunder Mountain, all of those, you know, classical Disney rides markedly better in Disneyland Paris. They're cleaner, they're better effects. They're longer, more thrilling, like just all around better. Theming the park was clean. And I also realized on this trip that that is the largest of the castle parks I'm pretty sure at least it's bigger than the two in the US. Disneyland in Anaheim is not very big. Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World is pretty big. But the Disneyland Paris park at Disneyland Paris resort is larger than the Magic Kingdom in Florida and it shows. And the resort as a whole like Disney. We could talk about this maybe one day. Disney has been stingy about parks. They've been shuffling money from Parks and spending it over on trying to get Disney plus to be a thing. The parks are the only continuously profitable segment of their business but they are dumping some money and for all the money they're not spending in the US they are spending some money on those international parks and it shows the Disneyland Paris Park is as a whole. There's a bunch of construction happening in the other park, the Walt Disney Studios Park, and then around some of the like the Downtown Disney Disney village stuff but the resorts were really nice, really clean. We stayed in like a club level room that had like great access to this lounge suite like free breakfast and stuff. It was awesome. Resort as a whole was great. And then the best thing about it is it's right on the metro so you, We hopped on a train, we walked out of our Airbnb in downtown Paris, walked, I kid you not, 30 feet into a metro station, got on a train transferred once in a small station and then walked out of a train station into Disneyland Paris. Incredible. And then we did the same thing. to go we left from there to go to the airport, we took the TGV, which is the high speed train, which we almost missed. It's a very efficient train system, but it arrived with like the wrong platform or something. And like they had announced over the PA at the last minute that it was arriving on the other platform, we had to sprint down a platform up an escalator over down. And like, we had all our suitcases with us as we're leaving from a 10 day trip. And we were literally throwing suitcases into the train. Our our friend, Josh, who's also named Josh, got on the train and the door closed, and it took off. We barely made it. And then the train, the train moves so fast that the train ride from they're not terribly far apart, but it's a fast train from Disneyland Paris park to the airport is only a 10 minute to the dot train ride. So we like got in threw our suitcases and sat down and we're like, oh, God, can we believe that just happened? And then we were getting off the train already. Like we didn't even have time to like process what had just transpired before we were getting off the train at the airport. So maybe the trains are too efficient. i Yeah, it was a great trip. I can't wait to go back. There's so much we didn't even get to do because it's such a big city.

John David Wright  
It's huge. Y'all need to focus on art museums. Next time

Josh Rogers  
we went to the Louvre for like an hour and a half. We didn't realize what time it closed. We bought tickets that had a 4pm entry time, like while we were there. And we went in at four saw a couple things like I didn't really care about seeing them to see the Mona Lisa. I don't care about seeing the Mona Lisa. But we di

John David Wright  
it's very underwhelming. 

Josh Rogers  
I knew it'd be underwhelming and there's that really great song from the Popstar movie with Andy Samberg, where they say Mona Lisa, Mona Lisa, you're an overrated piece of and I think that fully holds up. But we saw like uh winged victory like other statues of stuff that was cool to me. It's amazing. We were only in there in like the we are in that wing for like an hour and a half. And then we realized they were closing it was like, well, we'll definitely have to go back.

John David Wright  
I mean, you could probably spend a week in there and not look at everything.

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, there was some stat that was like if you spent 30 seconds on every piece of art for 24 hours a day in the Louvre you'd be there for like 100 and something days. Oh my Yeah. If you spent 30 seconds on each piece. Now granted, I mean, there's like long hallways where it's like piece after piece after piece. Right? Like, but and also, I never fully understood the scale of some of the paintings like you walk down some of these massive some of these hallways, and these paintings are 50 feet wide. I mean, just absolutely monstrous. It's like they, I I'm guessing they weren't painted in place. So I don't know how you transport a painting that large. But I guess they did. 

John David Wright  
The world of fine art is something else. Y'all should go to the next time you'll go the Orangery. That's where Monet's water lilies

Josh Rogers  
Yeah, yeah, that was a that was something that was recommended to us. We that was that was another day excursion we had looked at and we were also going to try to go to the Champagne region for a day that ended up not panning out it was kind of it wasn't easy to make it happen. And I felt like I was forcing it. So I was like, No, I'm not going to try and squeeze another excursion because we were already doing had three big things that we were kind of leaving Paris for, the eras tour. We went to Versailles for a day which Versailles was really awesome. And then Disneyland Paris, those are all kind of like excursions out of the city. Like trying to do wine country and not fully knowing where to go and the places I didn't want to go were already booked. So I was like we'll save that for another time. But it was great times can't wait to go back